Old Bardock vs New Bardock - Dragon Ball Super Broly

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  • Geekdom101
    Geekdom101  4 hónapja +1465

    So many Bardocks... so little time.

    • doom8589
      doom8589 16 napja +1

      hmm I think the story of Bardock probably still happens, otherwise why would he have been out in front of Frieza's vanishing ball...
      the key here is TIME..
      planet Vegeta is destroyed 1 Week after Goku is sent off planet.
      so it's highly possible the events that "change him" and lead up to the rebellion didn't occur yet..
      Bardock is simply wearing a different set of armor for that particular mission or some other reason for the change..
      his squad was wiped out within that week's time frame they die 3 days before the planet explodes.
      he get's back to planet Vegeta after his little rebellion and revenge for his fallen friends.
      he tries to stop Frieza thus why he appears in space with Frieza
      Frieza throws his vanishing ball and Bardock dies along with the planet..
      Now keep in mind the rebellion occurs on the 3rd day Before Frieza blows up planet Vegeta..and an already injured Bardock arrives 1/2 a day before Frieza attacks.. and in vain tries to warn nearby saiyans of what's happening..
      he then confronts him thus leading to the planet and his own's destruction the lesson here..Nappa was right .. Frieza is a jerk...

    • Black Anger
      Black Anger 17 napja

      +enrique12338 because the writers and toriyama himself must've done some serious drugs

    • enrique12338
      enrique12338 17 napja

      This bardock is trash where is grampa gohan and if they maid it new why did they still put bardock with his armor broken and his still shooting a ki blast at frieza why did they keep this part in answer me thanks

    • Black Anger
      Black Anger 17 napja

      Bottom line is they always mess with stuff they just leave alone ..thats just bottom line of the dissatisfaction

    • A. Liguria
      A. Liguria Hónapja +1

      Which one will be remembered the most ?
      -The ORIGINAL Bardock ?
      or
      -The Minus Bardock ?


      Guess we'll have to see it from who will appear in the games from now on.

  • HZD losingstreak

    WHAT THE HELL DOES 'CANAN' MEAN!?

  • Khadijah Tahir

    He used to have green armor

  • PepeGearSolid
    PepeGearSolid 2 napja

    Dragon Ball Super/Minus both are part of an alternate reality/timeline/universe than the original Dragon Ball/Z as far as I am concerned.

  • MrRedstone
    MrRedstone 5 napja

    They have same timeline dood

  • MrAlh840001
    MrAlh840001 7 napja

    unfortunatly toriyama just took a big dump on the bardock special and on all of its awesome characters including bardock himself, definetly a waste.

  • Greg Dobson
    Greg Dobson 7 napja

    Toriyama is basically George Lucas: great at worldbuilding but horrible at writing a narrative. He's nothing without his editors.

  • Greg Dobson
    Greg Dobson 7 napja +2

    Non-canon Bardock >>>>>>>>>>> Canon Bardock.

  • cyberpunk alchemy

    I honestly perrfer old Bradock

  • Super60429
    Super60429 7 napja

    Does anyone else see the irony of Toriyama retconning Goku's origin story to be exactly the same as that of Superman when he claims to hate the English dub of Z for having Goku act like Superman?

  • p. rofit
    p. rofit 8 napja

    Im only mad because goku was getting his ass pounded harder than jiren and still didnt go MUI, like wtf man you got this badass new power atleast train with it now

  • IllThunderJay Blue

    And then the movie came out...

  • mk4tv
    mk4tv 9 napja

    3 years old is a baby lol

  • Sergio Garcia
    Sergio Garcia 9 napja

    The old bardock looks better than new bardock

  • Video - Brains
    Video - Brains 9 napja +1

    Ewwwwwwww, that film.
    Doesnt even laugh at the fireball in space.

  • Sonmeone
    Sonmeone 11 napja +1

    But bardock did get hit in the movie.

  • Consumed by deceit
    Consumed by deceit 11 napja +1

    Super ruined the franchise.
    Retcon after retcon
    All it is, a quick cash grab. Plot and development have zero meaning now. Look at all the characters and recycled plots in super. Foo should just call it quits. DB met the same fate as pokemon. Future trunks frieza and even the pilaf crew how the fuck are they relevant?? Just cause they appeared in GT and he wants to show some relevancy?? Winnie the pooh, a fuckin robot, team full of wolves, an alien gray, even the blue transformation is piss poor writing.
    They ruined Bardock, one of the few great untouched aspects of the series. That puta toriyama cannot be forgiven. Fuck that puta and super.

  • Alaistair Lee
    Alaistair Lee 12 napja

    I prefer a more human version of bardock, I like bardock better in minus

  • Jay Saucedo
    Jay Saucedo 12 napja

    Frieza didn't wear his armor when he was first introduced to the saiyan, duh? He does after.

  • Nick Valentine
    Nick Valentine 12 napja +1

    Old bardock is better

  • Famous Wolf
    Famous Wolf 13 napja

    Since bardock didn't have his bandana in the broly movie, it would be cool is the way bardock got his bandana was from goku himself. Maybe during the second tournament of power. Maybe bardock gets an injury on his head and while bardock is unconscious,goku uses bandana or piece of cloth that becomes bandana to cover the head injury. Like street fighter with Ken and ryu or something close to that.

  • gohan son
    gohan son 13 napja

    Spoilers alert:
    Next time watch the movie before making videos. At 9:00 you suggest that the movie tries to make vegeta i the same age as goku but it does not. In the movie vegeta and broly have the same age but they are at least 2 years older than goku. I think they are 5 years older than him but whatever. Also the original squad of bardock is in the broly movie. You can see them when freeza arrives on planet vegeta and start scanning out saiyans. They are there so they existed. The story is mainly the same appart from some minor adjustment they made which tbh are quite understandable. Please rectify this now that you have seen the movie. Just please. And to finish bardock does rebel against freeza. He fights against his soldiers and freeza just come out and kills everyone. They dont show it in the trailers ofc 🙄

  • gohan son
    gohan son 13 napja

    At 7:40 u say there is nobody around freez but there is actually a bunch of his soldiers like in the dbs broly movie as well as the bardock special.
    At 6:52 you say freeza destroys the planet in minus but that's a lie he doesnt. The chapter focuses on the part where they send kakarott to earth

  • jhon jacson
    jhon jacson 14 napja

    Thing is though... the bardock portion of the story doesnt affect the story at all... could we not just ignore the retcon and keep everything else?

  • Wzrd
    Wzrd 14 napja

    don't see how it matters as the movies never really impacted the show aside from the garlic jr saga. Placing worlds strongest and tree of might in the time line of the anime is impossible so why does any one care about this new movie? The only problem is not even broly should be able to keep up with the god power. Also just assume all retcons are a result of time line tampering by mortals and the appearance of the rings.

  • James McGeachie
    James McGeachie 14 napja

    If you want more DB, there's gonna be retcons. It's the trade-off for getting new stuff without shackling new ideas.

  • Brayan Gonzalez
    Brayan Gonzalez 15 napja

    Accept toriyamas decision dam😒

  • hdvh hdvr
    hdvh hdvr 15 napja +1

    I'll just make my own interpretation of the story:
    - Canon timeline with retconned pre-DB, DB, DBZ/Kai (without fillers) and DBS
    - Non-canon timeline with classic pre-DBZ story, DB/DBZ/GT
    - Xeno timeline with non-canon story plus some movies and their characters interfering with other timelines
    - Movie timelines
    I'm thinking of something like an expanded universe
    To each their own interpretation, even if it's something absurd like mine

  • the man
    the man 15 napja

    I think yall are reading into it to much the fact that goku was sent to earth is what is important bc both is parents and planet vegeta was still destroyed. all the small details are just not important in the grand picture of things

  • doom8589
    doom8589 16 napja +1

    hmm I think the story of Bardock probably still happens, otherwise why would he have been out in front of Frieza's vanishing ball...
    the key here is TIME..
    planet Vegeta is destroyed 1 Week after Goku is sent off planet.
    so it's highly possible the events that "change him" and lead up to the rebellion didn't occur yet..
    Bardock is simply wearing a different set of armor for that particular mission or some other reason for the change..
    his squad was wiped out within that week's time frame they die 3 days before the planet explodes.
    he get's back to planet Vegeta after his little rebellion and revenge for his fallen friends.
    he tries to stop Frieza thus why he appears in space with Frieza
    Frieza throws his vanishing ball and Bardock dies along with the planet..
    Now keep in mind the rebellion occurs on the 3rd day Before Frieza blows up planet Vegeta..and an already injured Bardock arrives 1/2 a day before Frieza attacks.. and in vain tries to warn nearby saiyans of what's happening..
    he then confronts him thus leading to the planet and his own's destructionthe lesson here..Nappa was right .. Frieza is a jerk...

  • Luke Sa
    Luke Sa 17 napja

    "Open up your books to namek saga, chapter..."
    This sounds like a dragonball church

  • Son Kakarot
    Son Kakarot 17 napja

    I like old bardock and new king vegeta

  • Jose Pierret
    Jose Pierret 17 napja

    Omg in the broly movie they clearly show a rebellion

  • Black Anger
    Black Anger 17 napja +2

    Why did he think this was a good idea ..

  • LITTLE DEATH
    LITTLE DEATH 18 napja

    I like the new version better

  • Benjamin Harris Tia

    U know what’s more irritating?
    Kefla

  • Ainzho
    Ainzho 18 napja +1

    But is his artstyle becoming shit, old Bardock looks buffer so does old kid vegeta. But now they look skinny as hell

  • Madara Uchiha
    Madara Uchiha 19 napja

    Bardock went from everything to nothing

  • blackmanwithcomputer

    I'm just gonna act like Minus never happened. Even for the Broly movie. I'll only acknowledge lil Vegeta, lil Raditz, and the Broly parts of the backstory.

  • MR. BLueITAChi
    MR. BLueITAChi 19 napja +1

    updates?

  • Danomite
    Danomite 19 napja

    Delete this

  • Michael Peckham
    Michael Peckham 19 napja

    I feel like now that the movie is out this video has a lot of weak points. I feel like almost everything fits pretty well. Yes, Bardock is wearing different clothes, but you could argue that's all that was retconned. I honestly think Bardock's personality in Broly was more two-dimensional than the original, even if it's less epic.

  • william kelly
    william kelly 20 napja

    Wow video didnt start until two minutes in....

  • Raid R.
    Raid R. 20 napja

    I feel the struggle. I do.but bottom line is : ( take a deep breath) canon is what toriyama says it is.and sometimes that changes. I thought the original bardock was canon too.and maybe at the time it was.but things have changed. Either live with it and move one,or dont and let it ruin dragon ball for you.

  • Sean Hanlon
    Sean Hanlon 20 napja +1

    sorry had to stop watching i can only hear somebody say monga so many times.....

  • Pyro
    Pyro 20 napja

    Msg me on twitter if you havent seen the movie i have a google drive link to the HD dubbed release available for $5

  • zachary fox
    zachary fox 20 napja

    Who cares

  • the supa individual

    I could less if its canon or not canon its a show

  • Sahil Bhagat
    Sahil Bhagat 20 napja

    This is where i want to mention something he doesn't care now dbz is better anyday from super and new shitty movies.

  • Alexander Cruz
    Alexander Cruz 20 napja

    Tbh I don’t get why y’all are complaining. In the movie vegita was obviously still older than goku so that didn’t change. Broly is around the same age of vegita maybe barley younger. They did change the badass bardok fight vs freeza, but overall it didn’t ruin Dragon ball or anything. Bardok was such a small piece of the anime before

  • Johnny Vargas
    Johnny Vargas 20 napja

    I don’t care what anyone thinks! The old bardock is the best better story

  • Mark Maynard
    Mark Maynard 21 napja

    There are no original events in the manga. This is just the special that wasn't questioned being removed after the fact. The reaction actually is exactly in line with literary theory. The manga merely states that Goku was sent to Earth and Bardock died trying to stop Frieza. The Bardock special itself was never stated within the manga pages as being something that in its entirety actually happened. Easiest explanation for Minus and Bardock's events in the movie Toriyami forgot about the special or simply when he decided to write his own version didn't like it.

  • ᴛʜᴇ Fᴀᴛʜᴇʀ ᴏғ ʏᴏᴜʀ Dᴇᴍᴏɴꜱ

    I like the old Bardock he died trying to protect his race and Planet Now that's A Badass Sayian

  • I. Michel
    I. Michel 21 napja

    Nothing is canon anymore

  • Jay Xav
    Jay Xav 21 napja

    So he wanted to leave everything in one piece

  • KagomeMorino
    KagomeMorino 21 napja

    Different dimensions

  • lil xecsus
    lil xecsus 21 napja

    Maybe he lost his memories from falling down and hitting his head duh

  • iceman2705
    iceman2705 21 napja

    What if everything is just Gohans dream while he's sleeping in the time chamber to fight cell

  • soulblack 7
    soulblack 7 22 napja

    Holy shits he talks about how they have no armor or different armor it's not that big of a deal and he says major differences

  • gracendabz123
    gracendabz123 22 napja

    Spoilers!

    But after seeing the movie, I noticed that there did seem to be a resistance against Frieza, including Bardock. Agreed, a lot of details did change about Bardock's story - no mention of team mates or seeing the future. But he is there at the front of Frieza's blast

  • Christhian Borrero

    I prefer the old bardock

  • JcBlazer 04
    JcBlazer 04 22 napja +1

    Akira could save everything by saying that this is an alternate reality.

  • im the goat
    im the goat 22 napja +1

    Blame all this canon and non canon stuff on trunks

  • Dragon Princess Yona

    What the hell his making this new movie making it confusing

  • NIGHT BloodMoon
    NIGHT BloodMoon 22 napja

    but this is just a movie it’s not canon not until they actually make the movie into the show like the other two movies and just like the other two there will be differences from the movie to the show and in the movie there is a lot of ester eggs like Frizza being pink in the movie like he was in the cover of the manga but he’s not in the shows

  • NIGHT BloodMoon
    NIGHT BloodMoon 22 napja

    but this is just a movie it’s not canon not until they actually make the movie into the show like the other two movies and just like the other two there will be differences from the movie to the show and in the movie there is a lot of ester eggs like Frizza being pink in the movie like he was in the cover of the manga but he’s not in the shows

  • IceMan6468
    IceMan6468 22 napja +1

    Oh look....Toriama contradicted himself....again..... why are we shocked by this?

  • Lil Kloroxxx
    Lil Kloroxxx 23 napja

    Bardock did rebel in the movie Geekdom I'm gonna find you and neck chop you
    Oh yeah yeah

  • Tony C213
    Tony C213 23 napja

    Who else noticed that drawing collar bones on the characters gives them more of a 3d look. Compared to modern anime of the same characters. They dont give much detail to collar bones and it doesnt look as deep as the old images.. Gotta love classics.

  • Alfian Fahmi
    Alfian Fahmi 23 napja

    Toriyama retconned the shit out of the DBS that even the first Dragon Ball episode got retconned. Goku that once were dropped to the earth as a baby now got dropped as a toddler after the retcon. And yes, that's probably because it followed DB Minus, but really, man.

  • LilEric Inna'cut
    LilEric Inna'cut 23 napja

    This shit like a pastor during Bible study "Open up to Manga chapter 307"😂

  • Nathan Sargeant
    Nathan Sargeant 24 napja

    I loved broly... I watched it twice in theatres... but this DESTROYS the continuity...nothing is true, everything in permitted

  • Boricua405
    Boricua405 24 napja

    He did rebel

  • Dread Slash
    Dread Slash 24 napja

    They fixed a lot

  • jd h
    jd h 24 napja

    Not saying he's not retconning but the movies usually aren't cannon if that helps anyone who actually cares about this

  • ItsGarbanzo
    ItsGarbanzo 24 napja

    All this negativity in the comments, sheeeesh

  • Da Ovrlord
    Da Ovrlord 25 napja

    You guys realize that it his story he can do what he wants with it

  • Nikhil Chandra
    Nikhil Chandra 25 napja

    They are trying to make it more of superman kinda stuff..

  • KING CABOOSE
    KING CABOOSE 25 napja

    I don’t like how they got rid of Bardocks badassery and old armor, that’s a foul but I think that it was a good idea to get rid of his coldness....idk why I just didn’t like How cold Bardock was until he saw visions....they definitely should’ve kept the rebellion part though.

  • Dominique Minor
    Dominique Minor 26 napja

    I just don't like Bardock's generic sayain armor look.

  • Trey_ Sav
    Trey_ Sav 26 napja

    how can you call this anime good when you cant even figure out the continuity theres so many retcons in this anime and theres more to come

  • evilteen18
    evilteen18 26 napja

    i see it like this its his show his art let him do what he wants you dont like it its fine but i do like dragonball no matter how much it changes so i can say is deal with it or stop watching it

  • ZenTheOG
    ZenTheOG 26 napja

    WAIT BARDOCK DID REBELL AT THE VERY END HE HIT BACK WITH A KI BLAST IN THE MOVIE THIS VIDEO DIDNT GET THAT IN HE DID REBELL

  • Roy Crawford
    Roy Crawford 26 napja

    When Raditz first arrived on earth he told Goku that Planet Vegeta had been destroyed three years prior to his arrival on earth. But in the movie it shows Frieza destroying the planet when Goku was sent to earth. The storyline is all wrong.

  • JASIM A K
    JASIM A K 27 napja

    I'd love to see Bardock & Goku fight,emotion and fight.

  • TheNewCornyMule
    TheNewCornyMule 27 napja +2

    the new Bardock is better to me after seeing the movie. his design, his personality and relationship with the other saiyans.

  • Hegus Sam
    Hegus Sam 27 napja +1

    So, Bardock ended up rebelling in the Broly movie...and it was awesome...

  • Candypie 2010
    Candypie 2010 27 napja +1

    If you remember all this you should of wrote this for that old man shxt he old

  • Your Casual Fan
    Your Casual Fan 27 napja

    Who is watching this after seeing that US release of the Broly movie?
    The movie was great don't get me wrong, I just thought it was kind of lame because the bardock special was so awesome!
    I know this was the Broly movie but they really didn't need to include Bardock in it.

  • snipeslikewesley
    snipeslikewesley 27 napja

    This video is meaningless because this dragonball series is aiming in a new direction. Broly turns good to "team up with Goku and Jiren" hello?

  • Nicholas Ali
    Nicholas Ali 27 napja +2

    While Bardock isn’t as good as he was before, everyone is crying “my childhood” and it’s just annoying. The new Bardock is still good, Broly is better than ever before, and the “frieza is pink” argument is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. Who cares if frieza is pink? He was before, he was just wearing armor. And I don’t believe Japan has a word for toddler. So they just say that Goku is a baby, which explains why roshi calls Goku a baby.

  • Ultimate Goku
    Ultimate Goku 28 napja

    Old bardock was better

  • Straight Buggin out
    Straight Buggin out 28 napja +1

    I actually like the new bardock more then the old bardock, but he’s not complete without his bandanna tho

  • JuniorR
    JuniorR 28 napja

    Three years old = baby. You are officialy a kid at 5 five years old, so that one point was just wrong. Just saying.

  • Coop
    Coop 28 napja

    The only pert that I don't like is that Goku was 3 before he left for Earth instead of a baby who then was raised by Gohan

  • EZZY GREZZY
    EZZY GREZZY 28 napja

    The movie only shows how weak vegeta and goku are broly did the same thing jerin did he just disnt fight ultra instant

  • JoeyZero123
    JoeyZero123 28 napja

    Now go and watch the movie. Things weren't changed as much as he's saying. Bardock did rebel it just wasn't essential to this story so, it was a short clip

  • Talaris Watts-El
    Talaris Watts-El 28 napja

    I actually liked the origin in Broly Super better then in the Bardock special.

  • boo boo da fool
    boo boo da fool 28 napja

    This movie is really good

  • Gohan Xyooj
    Gohan Xyooj 28 napja

    If who Doesn't like it watch bardock's movie because this is about broly.